Hello, we are

Courageous Conversation®
Our Founder

We engage in sustained partnerships featuring training, coaching and consulting with organizations to transform beliefs, behaviors and results so people of all races can achieve at their highest levels and live their most empowered and powerful lives.

What Is Courageous Conversation®?

COURAGEOUS CONVERSATION® is our award-winning protocol for effectively engaging, sustaining and deepening interracial dialogue. Through our Framework for Systemic Racial Equity Transformation, we help individuals and organizations address persistent racial disparities intentionally, explicitly, and comprehensively.

The question we receive the most is:

“Why examine and address race?”

For us, there’s a simple answer for this:

Race matters.

Our Why

Race matters in our nation and around the world. It is critical that we address racial issues in order to uncover personal and institutional biases that prevent all people, and especially people of color, from reaching their fullest potential. COURAGEOUS CONVERSATION® serves as the essential strategy for systems and organizations to address racial disparities through safe, authentic and effective cross-racial dialogue.

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Courageous Conversation® and Pacific Educational Group.

Our Work

Pacific Educational Group is a consulting firm committed to forging racial equity. Over our nearly 30-year history, our mission has expanded from an original focus on transforming PreK-12 education and the United States to a broader scope of work that now addresses race in higher education, corporations, nonprofits, faith-based organizations, and law enforcement in Canada, New Zealand and Australia as well.

We believe systemic racism is the most devastating factor contributing to the diminished capacity of all people—especially people of color and indigenous people—to achieve at the highest levels. It fractures our communities and erodes the support and nourishment we would otherwise receive from them. We cannot hope to eliminate the racially predictable outcomes of our lives unless we first discuss race and racism in a way that is earnest, honest and sustainable.

Our Team

To that end, we have developed Courageous Conversation®, a process to understand and discuss race explicitly. Hundreds of thousands of people have learned the Courageous Conversation About Race Protocol™ from our diverse and dynamic staff.

These representatives of various professions, regions and life experiences work together to design curriculum, facilitate seminars and coach leaders to use Courageous Conversation® in their personal and professional lives.

Our Team
Our Team

These representatives of various professions, regions and life experiences work together to design curriculum, facilitate seminars and coach leaders to use Courageous Conversation® in their personal and professional lives.

Meet Our Team

Executive Leadership Team

Glenn E. Singleton

Glenn E. Singleton

Founder & President

Dr. Ruby Ababio-Fernandez

Dr. Ruby Ababio-Fernandez

Executive Vice President, Programming & Development

Programming & Development

Dr. LaKeisha Cook

Dr. LaKeisha Cook

Director, Corporate, Nonprofit, Government

David Gonzales

David Gonzales

Director, Certifications

Luis Versalles

Luis Versalles

Director, Business Development

Join the Conversation This Summer

Join us in Seattle, Milwaukee or the Bay Area for one of our groundbreaking Regional Summits. These two-day offerings engage participants in facilitated individual and group dialogue that is intentional, self-reflective and transformational.